Moac Tor wrote:[quote=Solecist Project]
Your mistake is thinking PvE comprises of just mining and HS mission running, ergo your counterpoint is invalid. And even if PvE did refer to only that, then that is still playing with the sand in the sandbox, but perhaps just a few grains of it.
When I talk about the sandbox I'm referring to much more than PvE, I am talking about, industry, small to medium gang PvP, and even out of game activities like video making and Eve events. Which ever way you look at it Blob warfare is just a small part of the sandbox.
Yes and now reread it all... you're in the wrong context.
The generic argument of "play how you want" is invalid in regards to a sandbox when you do not play with the sand.
Miners and mission runners, who do nothing else, don't play with the sand at all.
"Playing in a sandbox" and "sitting there, doing nothing but claiming you belong to it" aren't the same things.
This whole nonsense STARTED through those who claim they have a right to be left alone ...
... under the disguise of "equal rights" which simply
do not exist ...
... which is ONLY a problem for those who don't stand up for themselves!
Fact of the matter is that every game has laws and rules. When you suck at it and die,
that's fine, but when you suck at it, die and then want it changed, then you're not playing the game correctly!
Why? Because it has rules and laws that apply to everyone and ignorance and low ability isn't an excuse against them.
Abilities can be learned. Claiming "i don't want to" is, again, pure ignorance!
Those who continuously bullshit people with "i play how i want" also use it to justify afk activity ...
... which is by definition "not playing the game"!
It's used by people who want to avoid wardecs. They too "want to play how they want" ...
... but deny others this "right", because it's not about the sandbox, but about self centeredness!
They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ...
... and most people don't even understand why it's far from one!
They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want.
They don't care about the negative consequences this behaviour has.
They ask others to care about them, while not caring about the others!
They project their attitude towards those who don't want their gameplay nerfed and removed ...
... and do so out of pure selfishness, not caring if WE can't play how we want, as long as they can!
And while we stick to the rules and laws of the game ...
... they continuously try to change them for their own selfish benefits!
So ... my counterpoint is absolutely valid against the nonsense "play how you want" ...
... because it was born out of ignorance ...
... and is kept being repeated out of ignorance!
And the rest has nothing to do with it.